Friday, July 28, 2006

Attorney: PERA Could Stop ACLU Profits From Anti-Christian Lawsuits

(AgapePress) - An attorney with the American Family Association Center for Law & Policy (AFA Law Center) says the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) has gained windfall profits from its anti-Christian litigation, and it is time for the system that allows this to be changed.

Crampton and other faith and family advocates believe Congressman Hostettler’s legislation, if passed, could put an end to ACLU profits from anti-Christian litigation. PERA would do this by amending 42 U.S.C. sections 1983 and 1988 to prevent the use of the legal system in a way that extorts money from state and local governments and inhibits their constitutional actions.

Analysis- The ACLU making money from
anti-Christian litigation is no better than politicians that have hijacked Christianity and use their believe in God to further their careers.

11 Comments:

Blogger P said...

Yuck. Please, something not so boring. A new post people can argue about, lol. Something that gets the F words flying, lolol.

7:56 PM  
Blogger Prodigal Son said...

The age old saying is, there are two sides to every story. And in this particular instance, there is a story with in a story.

First, the other side of the story.

And now the story within the story. HR2679's champion, John Hostettler used to be my congressman. That is, until IN-08 was redistricted. A somewhat dated scoop on Hostettler’s current standing in the always fiercely contested Bloody Eighth indicates his rock solid small town/rural Christian base thinks he showed some unChristian-like sentiment just after Katrina.

Hostettler was one of the eleven members to vote against the emergency funding for damaged communities after Katrina hit the gulf. All three major cities in the 8th district lie on the Ohio river and Wabash Rivers which are both subject to flooding, and Evansville a city of over 100k people is situated in Tornado Alley. For the first time in his congress critter career he has done something that has sunk into the electorate. Commendations have come in from the papers in the district; ministers have condemned his vote as “a moral failure”. Even churches that have previously organized for his campaign are weary, not sure whether to condemn his vote or hope people will just stop asking questions.

Hostettler is facing some especially tough competition from one tough customer, Brad Ellsworth this year. All this said, HR2679 is Hostettler’s attempt to turn the tide against him. The thing of it is, the good folks of the Bloody Eighth have their eyes wide open and are likely not to be swayed by his posturing on HR2679. As for folks outside the Bloody Eighth, I think that they, too, see the bigger picture and are weary of the old divide and conquer politics of the extreme right wing...

To steal a line from Paul

And now you know the rest of the story

12:39 PM  
Blogger Prodigal Son said...

I remember the first thing to catch my eye at the original RC. It was before last fall's special election. It was Aaron boasting that he was bagging Republican voter registrations at his church, Bayside in Granite Bay. He set up a VR table at the church and kept it non-partisan *nod, nod, wink, wink* by "not wearing colors". Shortly thereafter he shared an email from an associate pastor at Bayside alluding to supposedly a cozy political relationship. Aaron prefaced his post with this *nod, nod, wink, wink* disclaimer...

BTW: Michael sent me this e-mail as a private person, not representing Bayside Church. So don't whine in the comments section about the Seperation of Church and Mind (er... state)

Yes, oozing with sneer at the principle of separation of church and state.

Here is a story of a principled pastor who resisted pressure from within his congregation to support winger political causes. He lost a 1000 of his flock but 4000 stood by him.

The requests came from church members and visitors alike: Would he please announce a rally against gay marriage during services? Would he introduce a politician from the pulpit? Could members set up a table in the lobby promoting their anti-abortion work? Would the church distribute “voters’ guides” that all but endorsed Republican candidates? And with the country at war, please couldn’t the church hang an American flag in the sanctuary?

After refusing each time, Mr. Boyd finally became fed up, he said. Before the last presidential election, he preached six sermons called “The Cross and the Sword” in which he said the church should steer clear of politics, give up moralizing on sexual issues, stop claiming the United States as a “Christian nation” and stop glorifying American military campaigns.

“When the church wins the culture wars, it inevitably loses,” Mr. Boyd preached. “When it conquers the world, it becomes the world. When you put your trust in the sword, you lose the cross.”


Amen, Brother...

6:18 PM  
Blogger CRA SGT said...

Hi Russ...

Please let people know that this is now your address and not mine.

My Name is Aaron Park and I used to own this blogspot name. I posted on this name for about two years. I am now out of the blogosphere and I wish you well.

9:19 PM  
Blogger Prodigal Son said...

The Stumble gadget on Firefox stumbled upon George Orwell’s Notes On Nationalism. It was written in 1945 just after the most horrendous war in human history. Nationalism had driven the world over the edge into madness.

I was wondering about the 1000 of the 5000 who left the flock of the principled pastor. He stood up to their attempts to turn the church into a political arena. When he finally used the pulpit to take his stand with the six sermons called The Cross and the Sword, the 1000 chose the Sword. That was more powerful for them than the Cross.

And as Orwell delineates, powerful, is at the root of nationalism.


By ‘nationalism’ I mean first of all the habit of assuming that human beings can be classified like insects and that whole blocks of millions or tens of millions of people can be confidently labelled ‘good’ or ‘bad’.[1]But secondly—and this is much more important—I mean the habit of identifying oneself with a single nation or other unit, placing it beyond good and evil and recognising no other duty than that of advancing its interests. Nationalism is not to be confused with patriotism. Both words are normally used in so vague a way that any definition is liable to be challenged, but one must draw a distinction between them, since two different and even opposing ideas are involved. By ‘patriotism’ I mean devotion to a particular place and a particular way of life, which one believes to be the best in the world but has no wish to force on other people. Patriotism is of its nature defensive, both militarily and culturally. Nationalism, on the other hand, is inseparable from the desire for power. The abiding purpose of every nationalist is to secure more power and more prestige, not for himself but for the nation or other unit in which he has chosen to sink his own individuality.


There has been confusion as to what to call the phenomena of seeking power through the infiltration of Christian churches. The term I have heard floated about lately is Christian Nationalists. So I have used it myself a time or two lately. But with the uneasy feeling that Christian Nationalist is an oxymoron. One can be a Christian or one can be a nationalist, but one can not be both at the same time.

The Sword represents power and The Cross gave us Grace. The Nazarene eschewed power every time it was dangled in front of him by the Serpent or those who spoke with forked tongue. The Nazarene defined grace to last us an Eternity

4000 chose grace....

9:52 AM  
Blogger Prodigal Son said...

One of the most remarkable sermons that this Prodigal Son has ever heard.*

Christian means to strive to be Christ-like. It means to walk in His footsteps. It has nothing to do with gaining power in this world...

*The first in a series of sermons intitled The Cross and the Sword by Rev. Greg Boyd, Pastor of Woodland Hills Church, Maple Wood, MN

4:21 PM  
Blogger Russ said...

P- Agreed

PS- We are certainly on the same side when it comes to religion and politics.

Aaron- I think people are well aware you are not the blog owner. The name and profile are right up top.

I appreciate the well wishes and am sure I speak for everyone. Post here and tells us why you left. I have read your blog but never posted a comment but I do know your story.

So I find it ironic that after Rodney posts a comment you post seems that happened before.

8:14 AM  
Blogger HD said...

Making a law to prevent windfall profits is rediculous; what is next, making a law that says if you are poor now, you have to stay that way. Such laws remove the incentive to work hard, to research, etc. I find it interesting that such people try to use the legislature to hobble beliefs that are opposite their own. If such a law comes about, then it is only fair that a law be passed banning tighs to churches.

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